tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post3693525088903166225..comments2024-03-24T20:13:39.387+00:00Comments on demography.matters.blog: Ukraine Population and FertilityUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-13618307730175613022014-09-02T00:02:06.252+00:002014-09-02T00:02:06.252+00:00I'm Linda from Texas. My husband left me for n...I'm Linda from Texas. My husband left me for no reason. He moved in with another woman, when we have few days left for our wedding. I felt like killing myself. I've tried different spell casters and went to different temples to pray but all to no avail. My life was very bitter and sorrowful. Then one day, a friend of mine told me about DR.OLOYE and that he is very good and does not even Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-12003404061558374362013-06-12T18:19:22.222+00:002013-06-12T18:19:22.222+00:00There's absolutely nothing wrong with populati...There's absolutely nothing wrong with population decline. A lot bigger problem would be the increase of population as seen in Asia and Africa.<br />We've been all hypnotized by economic growth for too long. <br />My personal opinion is that every country in the world should strive to achieve population decline with civilized measures. <br />There's a lot more on this planet than just Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-31709843688638264012011-04-05T23:49:09.611+00:002011-04-05T23:49:09.611+00:00ukrainian woman continues: moreover, all these tal...ukrainian woman continues: moreover, all these talks about economics underlying fertility as for me are highly not relevant. Ukrainians are historically and traditionally hard-workers especially women I'm not affraid of working hard to earn economical benefits for my children at any circumstances. The only thing that make difference is the degree of criminality in society. The axis of Evil Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-47664327955031651302011-04-05T23:14:43.766+00:002011-04-05T23:14:43.766+00:00I'm a young ukrainian woman. I would like to s...I'm a young ukrainian woman. I would like to share my thoughts on demography in Ukraine expressing my own subjective opinion on why fertility drops. I'm not having a child ONLY because no one guarantees me that there will be no another Stalin or morans like him (killed more than 10 mlns of ukrainians and world does not even know this Russian does not even want to accept that fact) whithinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-78809824537690651052009-02-08T14:03:00.000+00:002009-02-08T14:03:00.000+00:00http://ua-ru-news.blogspot.com/2009/01/shvonders-s...<A>http://ua-ru-news.blogspot.com/2009/01/shvonders-struggle-with-crisis.html</A>Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02981634320986169891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-89112558291258665862009-02-08T14:02:00.000+00:002009-02-08T14:02:00.000+00:00Kharkov is going to host Euro-2012 games. The city...Kharkov is going to host Euro-2012 games. The city will accept ten thousand fans from Europe. And none of them knows, that during 2007 year 10423 tuberculosis infected persons have died in Ukraine. Many of them have forgotten, that illness. Germany, Finland, Austria, Italy do not inoculate their citizenzs against this lethal disease.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, funds became insufficient and the Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02981634320986169891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-57602635080307302632007-11-30T07:55:00.000+00:002007-11-30T07:55:00.000+00:00Is anyone aware of the fertility poster/advertisem...Is anyone aware of the fertility poster/advertisement in Ukraine that was posted on buses around 2004<BR/>"нехай кохаємося "<BR/><BR/><BR/>and would know where I could find a picture of this?Katyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08607532593303695619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-14599059083892975822007-09-30T21:39:00.000+00:002007-09-30T21:39:00.000+00:00As mentioned in the last comment I now have a much...As mentioned in the last comment I now have <A HREF="http://globaleconomydoesmatter.blogspot.com/2007/09/economic-outlook-in-ukraine.html" REL="nofollow">a much more extensive version of this post</A>, with a lot of systematic economic data on <A HREF="http://globaleconomydoesmatter.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Global Economy Matters</A>.Edward Hughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10384039867580949531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-17361189284683068272007-09-27T06:27:00.000+00:002007-09-27T06:27:00.000+00:00Hi again rouge et blanc,"where are you getting you...Hi again rouge et blanc,<BR/><BR/>"where are you getting your inflation numbers from?"<BR/><BR/>Well this part is easy, from the IMF who are - since Ukraine are not (yet?) in the EU and hence Eurostat doesn't help - the best source of information.<BR/><BR/>One thing before I go further, one of the big advantages of a serious EU accession process is that the quality of the domestic statistical Edward Hughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10384039867580949531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-87101165131758256392007-09-27T03:02:00.000+00:002007-09-27T03:02:00.000+00:00Edward-where are you getting your inflation number...Edward-<BR/>where are you getting your inflation numbers from?<BR/><BR/>At the State Statistics Committee of Ukraine, real wages are growing, but not as much as they were before. <BR/><BR/>Prices are rising, but mostly in the industrial sector. <BR/><BR/>I'm not doubting that there is inflation, but just want to know what you're looking at. <BR/><BR/>Also, do you think that perhaps the fertility Katyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08607532593303695619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-43056238432768468042007-09-24T03:37:00.000+00:002007-09-24T03:37:00.000+00:00Hello again Rouge et Blanc,"You believe labor shor...Hello again Rouge et Blanc,<BR/><BR/>"You believe labor shortage is more of a problem in Ukraine, as opposed to Russia, because fewer immigrants are coming in than to Russia?"<BR/><BR/>Obviously. Yes. I would say that this is the position. The total numbers for the whole of Eastern Europe and the CIS etc simply don't add up. You can't resolve an aggregate absence of people by simply moving large Edward Hughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10384039867580949531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-87459509284883729932007-09-22T17:45:00.000+00:002007-09-22T17:45:00.000+00:00Thanks edward for your comments. You believe labor...Thanks edward for your comments. <BR/><BR/>You believe labor shortage is more of a problem in Ukraine, as opposed to Russia, because fewer immigrants are coming in than to Russia?<BR/><BR/>Is there evidence of inflation now?<BR/><BR/>Do you think this is a language issue-as all official jobs require both Ukrainian and Russian. <BR/>Otherwise, labor restrictions in terms of visas are less severe Katyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08607532593303695619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-1563448922020032052007-09-22T06:40:00.000+00:002007-09-22T06:40:00.000+00:00Hi Rouge et Blanc,And welcome. "What evidence do w...Hi Rouge et Blanc,<BR/><BR/>And welcome. <BR/><BR/>"What evidence do we have that low fertility is hurting the country?"<BR/><BR/>That is a very big question, and really to get an idea for yourself you'll have to read around the posts on this blog and elsewhere to form your own opinion. However...<BR/><BR/>My guess is that low fertility isn't hurting Ukraine yet. It really needs about 20 years toEdward Hughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10384039867580949531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-70227901444554571972007-09-22T04:25:00.000+00:002007-09-22T04:25:00.000+00:00Hello, I'm new to this blog. My question is-aside ...Hello, I'm new to this blog. <BR/><BR/>My question is-aside from publicly funded social security, why do we care that population is dwindling in Ukraine. Why is this a bad thing?<BR/>What evidence do we have that low fertility is hurting the country?Katyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08607532593303695619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-84048306377270021172007-08-17T22:26:00.000+00:002007-08-17T22:26:00.000+00:00I am waaaaaaaaaaaaaay late to this conversation, b...I am waaaaaaaaaaaaaay late to this conversation, but let me give a few comments. First, based on traveling to Ukraine between 2002 and 2006 in four different trips, I would ay there's a nontrivial uptick in births in the last visit (Jun 06). First time I went, it was damned eerie wrt the lack of babies and kids in Kiev. Jun o6 it seemed like there were baby buggies EVERYWHERE. I asked my wifeWill Bairdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07562404098136557872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-77956904080179635902007-08-13T03:19:00.000+00:002007-08-13T03:19:00.000+00:00"I doubt any government in the core EU countries (..."I doubt any government in the core EU countries (ie old Europe) or the US is going to seriously offer substantial legal migration to unskilled Chinese workers on any significant basis anytime soon"<BR/><BR/>-- there are very substantial numbers of recently-arrived Chinese in the US now, both legal and illegal. You find them even in out-of-the-way places; here in Santa Fe, for example, where Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-21741490710599020732007-08-06T09:48:00.000+00:002007-08-06T09:48:00.000+00:00I'm sorry, the first link won't work.http://www.ti...I'm sorry, the first link won't work.<BR/><BR/>http://www.tiny.cc/29vxF<BR/><BR/>Click from there on national trends in births, and so on.Aslakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05813371594062969329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-87901568130019101092007-08-06T09:43:00.000+00:002007-08-06T09:43:00.000+00:00Stirling,What I meant when I said that TFR is stab...Stirling,<BR/>What I meant when I said that TFR is stable, and I suppose I should have been more precise, is that TFR has staid in the 2-2.1 range since the early 90's. I doubt we will see much movement out of that range. <BR/><BR/>http://www.tiny.cc/dMwzx<BR/><BR/>(you need to click on the arrows twice to get TFR. Not that it's broken down by race, not by ethnicity.)<BR/><BR/>Also, Hispanic Aslakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05813371594062969329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-84940497035236254772007-08-06T06:58:00.000+00:002007-08-06T06:58:00.000+00:00"-- but unskilled wages in Europe and the US are a..."-- but unskilled wages in Europe and the US are a large multiple of those in even the most prosperous parts of China"<BR/><BR/>Yes, obviously, but I doubt any government in the core EU countries (ie old Europe) or the US is going to seriously offer substantial legal migration to unskilled Chinese workers on any significant basis anytime soon, and ten years from now I really do think it will be Edward Hughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10384039867580949531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-12186263861394948812007-08-06T04:55:00.000+00:002007-08-06T04:55:00.000+00:00Note that while Eurozone unemployment remains stub...Note that while Eurozone unemployment remains stubbornly high, the contrast is particularly notable for young entry-level workers.<BR/><BR/>Unemployment in France and Germany is currently running in the 8-10% range, but among under-25's it's over twice that.<BR/><BR/>And new business formation is also consistently low, while turnover among firms at all levels is consistently low by American Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-35132959704995570482007-08-06T04:52:00.000+00:002007-08-06T04:52:00.000+00:00"in particular since there is little point in trav..."in particular since there is little point in traveling half way round the world if what you are going to receive in the end are Chinese wages."<BR/><BR/>-- but unskilled wages in Europe and the US are a large multiple of those in even the most prosperous parts of China, nor is this likely to change. The difference will narrow, but not much -- China's overall productivity is still too low for Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-85773231919123369472007-08-06T04:49:00.000+00:002007-08-06T04:49:00.000+00:00"As far as I know, TFR in the US not trending upwa..."As far as I know, TFR in the US not trending upwards"<BR/><BR/>-- actually, yeah, it is. From approximately 3.5 in the early 60's it dropped below 2.1 in the 1970's, bottomed out at about 1.75 around 1980, and has since then risen consistently, slowly and irregularly. It reached 2 around 2000, and has since then risen to about 2.09 or 2.1<BR/><BR/>Note that until the 1970's, TFR's in the US Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-4612917248297407032007-08-05T11:46:00.000+00:002007-08-05T11:46:00.000+00:00"Note about China: while Chinese demographics are ..."Note about China: while Chinese demographics are unfavorable on a _Chinese_ scale, there are simply so many Chinese that an outflow that's miniscule in Chinese terms can be very considerable anywhere else."<BR/><BR/>Yep, but again you are thinking about the demographics and not about the economics too. Unskilled wages in China, while low by European and US standards are now comparatively high inEdward Hughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10384039867580949531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-554728199655173032007-08-05T11:26:00.000+00:002007-08-05T11:26:00.000+00:00Hi Sterling,Nice to have you back. We'd been missi...Hi Sterling,<BR/><BR/>Nice to have you back. We'd been missing your somewhat contrarian voice :).<BR/><BR/>I have a number of bits and pieces to post about, but I'll do it a bit by bit as time permits.<BR/><BR/>"-- this is rather odd, since Russia has a TFR of 1.38, and a life expectancy of 65 or so, both still falling."<BR/><BR/>Yep, but I think here you need to build in the economics of the Edward Hughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10384039867580949531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-56924300233263534652007-08-05T10:29:00.000+00:002007-08-05T10:29:00.000+00:00Sterling:First, a minor point:As far as I know, TF...Sterling:<BR/>First, a minor point:<BR/>As far as I know, TFR in the US not trending upwards, it is in fact remarkably stable at just below replacement rate (In part because of high Hispanic TFR).<BR/><BR/>Second, I doubt that Western European immigration to the US will increase. No doubt the top US universities will continue to recruit many of the top academics. However, with the increasing Aslakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05813371594062969329noreply@blogger.com