tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post3569463289187856173..comments2024-03-24T20:13:39.387+00:00Comments on demography.matters.blog: Eurostat on European populations in 2060Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-69883198277734660242009-01-18T14:10:00.000+00:002009-01-18T14:10:00.000+00:00Dear Anonymous,Drivel? Let us see how you view evi...Dear Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>Drivel? <BR/><BR/>Let us see how you view evidence of human population dynamics and the human overpopulation of Earth. If you please, comment on the presentation provided in the following link.<BR/><BR/>www.panearth.org<BR/><BR/>Please note that the research indicates that human population dynamics are essentially similar to, not different from, the population dynamics ofAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-70142365723112993882009-01-11T21:56:00.000+00:002009-01-11T21:56:00.000+00:00Hi Outland."Did the writers of this formidable blo...Hi Outland.<BR/><BR/>"Did the writers of this formidable blog stop their efforts?"<BR/><BR/>No. At least I hope not. I have just been so busy with the general economic crisis, Claus with intensive study for exams and Randy with other matters.<BR/><BR/>Don't worry. We will be back.<BR/><BR/>EdwardEdward Hughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10384039867580949531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-15672567104094217442009-01-11T19:49:00.000+00:002009-01-11T19:49:00.000+00:00Did the writers of this formidable blog stop their...Did the writers of this formidable blog stop their efforts?<BR/><BR/>If so, too bad. I've learned a lot here. Thnx anyway, it's greatly appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-41115964414190147332009-01-10T04:41:00.000+00:002009-01-10T04:41:00.000+00:00Government control of population is immoral. SESA...Government control of population is immoral. SESALMONY@aol.com, I have never read a post filled with as much drivel as yours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-45849218397945042202008-12-25T12:59:00.000+00:002008-12-25T12:59:00.000+00:00If the next generation does not do better than my ...If the next generation does not do better than my "Not So GREAT GREED GRAB Generation" of elders has done to protect Earth from reckless environmental degradation and resource dissipation, then I cannot even imagine what the future will look like for those billions of people who are alive 50years from now. The "pale blue dot" may not be so beautiful a place to inhabit in 2060, I fear.<BR/><BR/>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-31587108420071739632008-11-11T06:17:00.000+00:002008-11-11T06:17:00.000+00:00Financial Times reports UBS economist George Magnu...Financial Times reports UBS economist George Magnus has a new book that relates closely to demography: "The Age of Aging: How demographics are changing the global economy and our world.”<BR/><BR/>Link to article:<BR/>http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2008/11/10/18028/the-great-pensions-disaster<BR/><BR/>I will be interested to read it. Does Magnus consider a pre-Bismarckian "pension" of human Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-40620735182028588002008-10-12T10:34:00.000+00:002008-10-12T10:34:00.000+00:00The Eurostat projections on European Populations i...The Eurostat projections on European Populations in 2060 are based on assumption that current trends continue till 2060.<BR/><BR/>But The reality is that in next 50 years, energy and natural resources and farmland will be less available (per capita) than now and all this will influence the immigration and population trends of European states.<BR/><BR/>UK is a small country with few natural ramki830https://www.blogger.com/profile/08377209608052223692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-66895830453638171932008-10-11T02:47:00.000+00:002008-10-11T02:47:00.000+00:00Economically, the new population coming to france ...Economically, the new population coming to france are more likely to impoverish it.<BR/><BR/>So it is hardly a solution as you will have more people to take care of (and with new unexpected kind of problems) with fewer people contributing to the economy.Nicolashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03434148024010872285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-17333570616036646922008-09-29T08:51:00.000+00:002008-09-29T08:51:00.000+00:00There doesn’t appear to be much in the way of supp...There doesn’t appear to be much in the way of supporting evidence for all this. The population changes have little to do with birth/death rates which will remain broadly neutral and a lot to do with patterns of migration. I can’t help thinking that what they have done is simply to have taken current trends and projected them forward far into the future.<BR/>================<BR/>kimrennin<BR/><A kimrenninhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10264508040463804058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-61739663509752970132008-09-21T01:48:00.000+00:002008-09-21T01:48:00.000+00:00You must be joking, any group which consist of the...You must be joking, any group which consist of the kids of uneductated gastarbeiters is trouble. See for example the Brixton riots.<BR/><BR/>The only reason why the Ecuadorians haven't caused problem is because their kids aren't old enough and the only thing i will say about the Polish is that France was rightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-67342733837052430412008-09-19T20:41:00.000+00:002008-09-19T20:41:00.000+00:00georges: you're absolutely correct. The idea of ...georges: you're absolutely correct. The idea of culturally compatible has everything to do with one factor: are the Muslim. So, African Christians are perfectly acceptable, as are Hindus from Indian, or Catholics from Ecuador. There's only one group guaranteed to cause trouble, and we ALL know who that is. <BR/><BR/>Why do they cause trouble: it has to do with the religion, particularly the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-89302149220115464132008-09-13T20:06:00.000+00:002008-09-13T20:06:00.000+00:00RandyAs far as I can tell, the the only question w...Randy<BR/><BR/>As far as I can tell, the the only question which makes a particular immigrant group "acceptable" or not is, "are they Muslim?"<BR/><BR/>The British government has recently tried to act tough on immigrants by deporting Zimbabwean refugees. But, as far as I can tell from reactions, most Brits think this is mean-spirited and wrong, and are happy for all the Zimbabweans to stay. As georgesdelatourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03548858896924613970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-67962059680678046922008-09-11T13:11:00.000+00:002008-09-11T13:11:00.000+00:00Randy:"The Canadian province of Newfoundland ...Randy:<BR/><BR/>"The Canadian province of Newfoundland absolutely and relative to the rest of Canada has a per capita income much higher than that of (say) Romania or Morocco absolutely or relative to Spain, and has been enjoying an oil-driven economic boom in the bargain. Newfoundland is still seeing an almost frightening population decline (by one-tenth since 1991, I believe), produced by Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-45734756433756667252008-09-10T04:42:00.000+00:002008-09-10T04:42:00.000+00:00aslak:"Polish immigrants are far more acceptable t...aslak:<BR/><BR/>"Polish immigrants are far more acceptable to the Brits than a similar large-scale immigration of, say, Kurds or Somalis would be."<BR/><BR/>More acceptable than the Irish immigrants, colinguals all, of old? Or of the Anglophone immigrants from the Caribbean, Africa, and South Asia?<BR/><BR/>Language isn't a guarantee. Algeria might be the second Francophone country in the world Randy McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04707497864911987241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-50731598564713851362008-09-10T04:37:00.000+00:002008-09-10T04:37:00.000+00:00But you can't have it both ways. You can't say tha...<I>But you can't have it both ways. You can't say that it is important to pay attention to demographics and then turn around and pretend that demographics will not effect the number of available immigrants.</I><BR/><BR/>They will in some cases, they won't in others. In most of the major European immigrant-receiving countries--Britain, France, Spain in particular--they won't, simply on account of Randy McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04707497864911987241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-37960907319158578762008-09-09T03:14:00.000+00:002008-09-09T03:14:00.000+00:00I agree with Aslak. We recently had a case here i...I agree with Aslak. We recently had a case here in Colorado where Somali immigrants displaced illegal Mexican ones at a meat-packing plant after the latter were sent home. The Somalis soon demanded breaks compatible with daily prayer. This lead to conflict with the remaining hispanic workers, who were forced to work more as a result. <BR/><BR/>The conflict came to a head when the Somali Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-8763480626245511742008-09-08T15:00:00.000+00:002008-09-08T15:00:00.000+00:00Randy,"Cultural links play roles in immigration on...Randy,<BR/>"Cultural links play roles in immigration only insofar as they foster the creation of migration networks, not in making people in the receiving countries like them."<BR/><BR/>I beg to differ. Polish immigrants are far more acceptable to the Brits than a similar large-scale immigration of, say, Kurds or Somalis would be. Ecuadoreans may not be perfectly welcome in Spain but try asking Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-87058100139494934282008-09-07T18:56:00.000+00:002008-09-07T18:56:00.000+00:00Randy, I am all in favor of immigration. Rich coun...Randy, I am all in favor of immigration. Rich countries don't have a choice if they want to sustain their way of life. And I would never get in the way of someone who would want to leave North Africa. <BR/><BR/>But you can't have it both ways. You can't say that it is important to pay attention to demographics and then turn around and pretend that demographics will not effect the number of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-70272717440666700622008-09-07T13:20:00.000+00:002008-09-07T13:20:00.000+00:00"I think that Randy's point about Italy could be m..."I think that Randy's point about Italy could be made for Europe as a whole."<BR/><BR/>I'd disagree. The numbers for other nations that are cited seem to be more realistic, in the sense that they don't almost completely balance out natural decrease--Germany and Poland come particularly to mind.<BR/><BR/>"It is taken for granted that there will always be this endless supply of immigrants looking Randy McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04707497864911987241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-30974760956554577392008-09-07T08:50:00.000+00:002008-09-07T08:50:00.000+00:00The immigration question really varies a lot from ...The immigration question really varies a lot from country to country. A country like Spain has an enormous reservoir of potential immigrants in Latin America with minimal cultural and linguistic issues in addition to more controversial African immigrants. On the other hand it seems like a country like Italy is more dependent on less "desirable" immigrants in terms of public perception, hence the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-85518113181446377352008-09-06T13:51:00.000+00:002008-09-06T13:51:00.000+00:00I think that Randy's point about Italy could be ma...I think that Randy's point about Italy could be made for Europe as a whole. It is taken for granted that there will always be this endless supply of immigrants looking to get into Europe. But the nations that are currently supplying Europe with immigrants simply can not keep up the current pace with out destroying their own nations. <BR/><BR/>As Randy himself notes, Eastern Europe is already Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com