tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post115839733953990640..comments2024-03-19T11:14:28.872+00:00Comments on demography.matters.blog: A Tall StoryUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-60370075354356083112011-02-09T08:11:54.348+00:002011-02-09T08:11:54.348+00:00The Dutch are taller because the short ones drowne...The Dutch are taller because the short ones drownedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-1158573459227806642006-09-18T09:57:00.000+00:002006-09-18T09:57:00.000+00:00"There are two "genetic" aspects to height."Yup, w..."There are two "genetic" aspects to height."<BR/><BR/>Yup, we are definitely in the same ballpark (one more time) here. I will be posting more on all this.Edward Hughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10384039867580949531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-1158572034281769082006-09-18T09:33:00.000+00:002006-09-18T09:33:00.000+00:00There are two "genetic" aspects to height.First, n...There are two "genetic" aspects to height.<BR/><BR/>First, nutritional stress in one generation can restrict the height of the next, irrespective of the offsprings' intake. (And vice versa).<BR/><BR/>Then there's the upper limit even given multigenerational optimum nutrition, which varies between populations much as say coloration or the cranial index does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-1158571932222820832006-09-18T09:32:00.000+00:002006-09-18T09:32:00.000+00:00As far as height is concerned, even the Dutch are ...As far as height is concerned, even the Dutch are still not as tall on average as the Cro-Magnon hunter-gatherers, whose males averaged over 6ft.<BR/><BR/>The adoption of agriculture led to a sharp drop in average heights, which has only recently been made good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-1158511817768401052006-09-17T16:50:00.000+00:002006-09-17T16:50:00.000+00:00"But menarche is coming sooner these days - and al..."But menarche is coming sooner these days - and also indicates the end of growth for girls"<BR/><BR/>Oh yes, definitely, the thing is we don't know which is the optimum age or the optimum diet here. It is almost certainly a non-linear process. That is some more nutrition is definietly beneficial, especially protein and micro-nutrients. But after a point there is 'ex-cess' nutrition relative to Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07431230172942198078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-1158503627787776082006-09-17T14:33:00.000+00:002006-09-17T14:33:00.000+00:00But menarche is coming sooner these days - and als...But menarche is coming sooner these days - and also indicates the end of growth for girls (I think you grow for approximately two years after the onset of menarche). Wouldn't that make women smaller?<BR/><BR/>Shouldn't you include something like the Masai? Also very tall and also lots of dairy products?dutchmarbelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05048826063539856005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-1158491859024082972006-09-17T11:17:00.000+00:002006-09-17T11:17:00.000+00:00"A population's height is a product of nutrition _..."A population's height is a product of nutrition _and_ of genetics"<BR/><BR/>The interesting thing Stirling is that these two may well be much more interconnected than any of us have previously imagined. Basically proteins are fuel, fuel produces amino acids, and the amino acids regulate the protein structure. Essentially it is the availability of the nine key amino acids (plus a small number of Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07431230172942198078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-1158486338204274582006-09-17T09:45:00.000+00:002006-09-17T09:45:00.000+00:00A population's height is a product of nutrition _a...A population's height is a product of nutrition _and_ of genetics. <BR/><BR/>Any population will grow taller with a high-protein, high-calorie diet, but some will grow taller than others on the same diet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com