tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post114498908556882992..comments2024-03-19T11:14:28.872+00:00Comments on demography.matters.blog: The Szeklers and the Magyars: A doomed relationship?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-18421298094672481902012-06-24T06:31:51.188+00:002012-06-24T06:31:51.188+00:00I'm Szekler and Hungarian in the same time. Lo...I'm Szekler and Hungarian in the same time. Lot of people who declare themselves Romanian today are not truly Romanian. Lot of coming from mixed marriages or diverse non-Romanian background. If could be organised a real census when nobody can be forced or persuaded to hide their identity the Romanian number could drop to 50-60%. <br />Regarding if in the European Union does it matter the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-13204538723668601232012-06-02T00:41:21.254+00:002012-06-02T00:41:21.254+00:00As we Szekelys say, the Szekely is Hungarian, but ...As we Szekelys say, the Szekely is Hungarian, but the Hungarian is not Szekely. You can be made a nobleman by the King, but to become a Szekely, you have to be born as a Szekely.<br />Personally I think that the Szekelys are an ancient Kara-Bulgar Turkic branch with some Alan (Sarmata) mix.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-26585445184337151792008-12-28T11:03:00.000+00:002008-12-28T11:03:00.000+00:00WRONG: "As it happens, a good chunk of Romania's M...WRONG: "As it happens, a good chunk of Romania's Magyars seems to be redefining itself as non-Magyar."<BR/><BR/>I am Magyar. I am Transilvanian, thus citizen of Romania and over here everyone knows that the Szeklers or Székelys are Hungarians.<BR/><BR/>There are plenty of good and bad resources on the net, next time document yourself better in the above as well as other questions before posting.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08976372411663424010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-78219778000939944572008-10-14T22:28:00.000+00:002008-10-14T22:28:00.000+00:00This is a very interesting blog on the demography ...This is a very interesting blog on the demography of the Magyars. <BR/><BR/>Here is a great website in the Magyar language that might be of interest to you:<BR/><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://wikibrowser.net/dt/hu/" REL="nofollow">Magyar wiki browser</A>Bryce Wesley Merklhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221714925372581614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-90634340125537707362008-02-26T19:51:00.000+00:002008-02-26T19:51:00.000+00:00There is now a very good Secui article in Romanian...There is now a very good Secui article in Romanian language:<BR/><BR/>http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secui<BR/><BR/>quite unbiased so the Romanians finally can find out about the SzeklersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-67152800640549234612008-01-18T13:43:00.000+00:002008-01-18T13:43:00.000+00:00I don't disagree that the minority policies of the...I don't disagree that the minority policies of the Kingdom of Hungary were, besides being petty and generally counterproductive, rather short-sighted, and that Hungarian revanchism wasn't a productive force.<BR/><BR/>Agreed that the gradual closing of the Hungarian-Romanian economic gap is a good thing for both parties, in much the same way as the successful closing of the French-Italian and Randy McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04707497864911987241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-75602560950857660302008-01-17T18:40:00.000+00:002008-01-17T18:40:00.000+00:00I think we can all decry the loss of ethnic divers...I think we can all decry the loss of ethnic diversity in Transylvania. This region used to be a lot more diverse than it is today. The German and Jewish populations have all but vanished.<BR/><BR/>The vibrant pre-1940 urban Jewish communities have been deported by the Magyar authorities to extermination camps between 1940 and 1944. probably tens of thousands of them have been gruesomly killed. ofAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-62401309642397141792008-01-16T14:11:00.000+00:002008-01-16T14:11:00.000+00:00Just for the record, I wasn't attempting to take a...Just for the record, I wasn't attempting to take a particular side in the Transylvania question, for any extremist nationalism. This essay was an attempt to look at an interesting question of ethnic identity, nothing more--all comments are welcome!Randy McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04707497864911987241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-59184025333942539092008-01-04T21:14:00.000+00:002008-01-04T21:14:00.000+00:00I will try to write a short history on the matter ...I will try to write a short history on the matter because I see there is a bit of confusion and despite decrying Romanian nationalism ( which no doubt exists and is as bothersome to me as any other kind of exclusive nationalism) I can detect a lot of Hungarian nationalistic mantras ( a quarter of Magyar population has been transfered to the succesor states").<BR/><BR/>first the demography. In Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-6819324782388105152007-11-25T21:46:00.000+00:002007-11-25T21:46:00.000+00:00One very unfortunate thing I find in the issue of ...One very unfortunate thing I find in the issue of Szeklers is what the Romanian press is not well documented and the journalists mislead the Romanian population by spreading hatred.<BR/>After World War I., Hungarian culture and human rights have suffered tremendously. Even after the fall of the Ceausescu dictatorship in 1989, the Hungarians still found themselves pulled down by the extremism in Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16978795252241730641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-1164162977584431612006-11-22T02:36:00.000+00:002006-11-22T02:36:00.000+00:00I don't disagree with that broadly Hungarian ident...I don't disagree with that broadly Hungarian identity. What I was suggesting was that, with the liberalization of the Romanian state removing any need for solidarity, the historical distinctiveness of the Szekler tradition might come to form the basis for a separate ethnic tradition. As the first of your Wikipedia links pointed out, they, along with the Magyars and the Germans, constituted one ofRandy McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04707497864911987241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-1164076020523151822006-11-21T02:27:00.000+00:002006-11-21T02:27:00.000+00:00There are serious errors."As it happens, a good ch...There are serious errors.<BR/>"As it happens, a good chunk of Romania's Magyars seems to be redefining itself as non-Magyar."<BR/>Wrong! Szeklers are Hungarians. The basis of their drive for territorial autonomy: they are the majority in their counties. Also, there was a Hungarian Autonomous Province, later Maros-Hungarian Autonomous Province, b etween 1952-1968, abolished by the Ceauşescu regimeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19949676.post-1154547236052848972006-08-02T19:33:00.000+00:002006-08-02T19:33:00.000+00:00RandyYou focus on one of the nationality problems ...Randy<BR/>You focus on one of the nationality problems in East-Central Europe. Hungarians have the potential of becoming a dominant ethnia but they are passively accepting their dissolution. It is very strange - the ferocious "nem nem soha" Hungarian attitude seems to have disappeared, erradicated by the Communist regime. They dont want to fight anymore, just like the Austrians or the Germans. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com